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k brown wrote:And it doesn't need any of it's inputs set up a certain way?

No!

I thus deduce that you have a keyboard that doesn't register velocity AND has no sustain pedal plugged into it

I just answered that question in private. I hope Kevin isn't too surprised, that it is just another MIDI CC (here CC64, with <64 == off and >= 64 == on)

Well, it's like this - I have a Bass Station that sends Velo, but has no Sust pedal input. And a DX100 that doesn't send Velo, but does have a Sust pedal jack. However I've not had a pedal until just a week ago when my wife bought a Yamaha 'arranger' keyboard that sends Velo, AT and has a sustain jack, but wont work with my old PC !

I knew Sust was just MIDI CC64, I just didn't know the MIDI-Voice prim recognized it natively/didn't need to be 'told' externally, like PB, Mod Whl, Breath etc.

If one wanted to use Sustain pedal/CC64 for some other purpose in a project, how you tell the MIDI-Voice prim not to sustain when the pedal's used for something else? Is that when one would need trogg's MIDI Helper module?

You're right about opening your schem - it worked by opening it after I was in FS, but not by double-clicking the fsm.

I’ve come across the schematic opening by double-click issue before. Also I sometimes find, especially with Bob’s schematics, that if I double click to open, my toolbox is empty! No idea why.

Regarding the sustain-pedal-for-something-other-than-sustain thing, you’d have to make a MIDI filter for CC64 to stop the MIDI prims from responding.

Cheers

Spogg

You know, I don't often mention but I'm a pianist. I'll check this out

Hi Spogg,

Great Piano sounds, works great with a "Akai MPK mini " keyboard I just bought for $5.00 (it had a bad power supply that I fixed). It has velocity so it's great for testing nice synth's like this one. Very nice lay out and I really like your Sympathiser works well and very cool having a built in recorder.

Later then, BobF.....

k brown wrote:Is that when one would need trogg's MIDI Helper module?

Besides the other "hold modes" that it implements; yes, pretty much - it allows you to override the default assignment to CC64, or to use an arbitrary boolean link to control it. Having the module and the built-in sustain working at the same time doesn't do any harm, AFAIK - they just logical-OR with each other.

Spogg wrote:I’ve come across the schematic opening by double-click issue before. Also I sometimes find, especially with Bob’s schematics, that if I double click to open, my toolbox is empty! No idea why.

I've never got to the bottom of it either. I've never noticed much of pattern to which schematics it affects, other than it's rarely ones made on the same PC, and larger ones are maybe more prone to it. The thing I find strangest is that FS will sometimes let me edit the schematic, save/load files etc., and even call up new primitives by their shortcut keys; all without the application having been completely initialised. There's some clever multi-tasking going on to let that happen!

trogluddite wrote:I've never noticed much of pattern to which schematics it affects, other than it's rarely ones made on the same PC, and larger ones are maybe more prone to it.

Yes it's well weird. I've never yet had it happen on any of my own scematics, and some of them are huge. But Bob's I would guess at about 50% fail the toolbox test, even his small schematics.

Cheers

Spogg