Clicks in synths

[wlangfor@uoguelph.ca]

So, I am starting to get into synths. And like anything show Me some examples please and I'll try to excel.
In fact, if someone can point out to Me ways or where I can find ways to prevent clicks in synths.

I'll try to make some guides and useful modules once I've perfected it.

[Halon]

Could be the envelope settings. Try increasing the release amount.

[wlangfor@uoguelph.ca]

Could be the envelope settings. Try increasing the release amount.

No, I'd meant in general; But thanks. Most of the synths I have tried made with flowstone seem to have clicks. I have not tried kevin brown's to any great degree though; I'm often too busy with school and making music; But i will.

But i tried the jayfgrog nightlife and it is flawless. How is it that every function has no clicks and most of ours do? What's the secret. if We had .fsm's listed that have no clicks then we can solve this mystery I'm thinking.

[Jay]

perhaps the issue is on your side,is you system adequate for running power hungry stuff? could it be a driver issue? i do not get clicks with many of peoples flowstone creations apart from the above mentioned issue with envs, i always add a tiny bit of attack hard set on my envelopes to stop it being zero and clicking, and if the synths have de-normals and are eating the cpu and memory, that can cause clicky audio!

oh and one other issue i have seen with pops and clicks is changing presets whilst playing!

are these the kind of issues you are talking of?

best regards

[Spogg]

Jay is of course absolutely correct.

I would add that delay modules in the poly stream can cause clicks. For every multiple of 4 new notes created, new memory for the delay must be assigned, and this will cause clicks which are very short interruptions to the audio stream. The exception is “tuned” delays where the delay is short and related to the frequency, for example in Karplus-Strong oscillators.

Switching of selectors in the audio stream, while sound is present, is also no-no because the schematic/plugin has to recompile the path.

Any fast live switching in the audio stream can lead to clicking due to a waveform being non-zero crossing at the moment of switching. This will appear as a random click since the switching will not be synchronised to the waveform so could happen anywhere.

If your DAW saves the whole VST state, you may get clicks when you change a setting. This is more apparent on more complex plugins. In Reaper you can set it to save minimal undo states. This has to be done on a per-plugin basis.

I listen carefully to my synths before I publish them and make sure there are no clicks or other artefacts. If you get clicks on any of mine I would say it’s down to your PC’s speed.

Cheers

Spogg

[wlangfor@uoguelph.ca]

perhaps the issue is on your side,is you system adequate for running power hungry stuff? could it be a driver issue? i do not get clicks with many of peoples flowstone creations apart from the above mentioned issue with envs, i always add a tiny bit of attack hard set on my envelopes to stop it being zero and clicking, and if the synths have de-normals and are eating the cpu and memory, that can cause clicky audio!

oh and one other issue i have seen with pops and clicks is changing presets whilst playing!

are these the kind of issues you are talking of?

best regards

Yes, the system is adequate, I was meaning the Jayfrog synth is one of the few made with flowstone that has no clicks at all. And I just wonder what could be that different? De-normals, yes. I often work with effects so I have a different mentality. I suppose You have to think in the terms of micro-management.

Hmm, well those two ideas may be helpful; Because I do use a lot of synths without the same issue.And I have been trying to add a lot of de-zippers. That seems to help but I wonder about their CPU use. I'll make sure to add a bit of attack as well. i was wondering why that the best synths were always ready to accept new programming.

That clears a lot up thanks.

I would add that delay modules in the poly stream can cause clicks. For every multiple of 4 new notes created, new memory for the delay must be assigned, and this will cause clicks which are very short interruptions to the audio stream. The exception is “tuned” delays where the delay is short and related to the frequency, for example in Karplus-Strong oscillators.

Any fast live switching in the audio stream can lead to clicking due to a waveform being non-zero crossing at the moment of switching. This will appear as a random click since the switching will not be synchronised to the waveform so could happen anywhere.

I listen carefully to my synths before I publish them and make sure there are no clicks or other artefacts. If you get clicks on any of mine I would say it’s down to your PC’s speed.

Cheers

Spogg

I didn't know that about reaper, that's an interesting fact. I especially like Your suggestion regarding the karplus strong oscillator. Thanks again.