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VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

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VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby RJHollins » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:57 am

Searched through the forums and didn't find anything specific to this issue.. :cry:

I know it's been mentioned, but the issue is:

My VST plugin stops working when the GUI is not in FOCUS ... in other words, if it goes to the background ... the plugin goes silent.

Example ... made a tone/noise generator. As long as the GUI is 'front center', we have sound ... but the sound stops if I move to a different plugin [change 'focus'].

I'm not even sure how to search the forum regarding this.

Confusing as this is ... it may be RUBY goes un-conscience [as I have a mixture of Ruby and 'green'] it's hard to say.

From this general description ... any insights or comments on how to fix this ??
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby tester » Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:59 pm

Difficult to say. I haven't noticed such behavior here, but I would try to isolate the part that goes silent.

Is this behavior in various hosts or is it specific host dependent?
Are you able to "extract" the simplest segment from your plugin, that behaves that way too?

Few things that come to my mind:
1) host dependent behaviour
2) single green tick (flow of triggers) involved into two things, of which - one (gui related?) affects the other one... some way
3) some sort of ruby problem (if you don't know what to blame...)

But as I said - without seeing an extracted part of the schematic - it is difficult to point the issue.
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby Perfect Human Interface » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:34 am

The "redraw limiter" primitive will block triggers when the GUI is closed/not visible. That's the only thing I know of that functions in this way.
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby RJHollins » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:58 am

I'm still looking into all this ... and definitely appreciate the insights and observations.

This may very well be a 'hosting' issue [or at least, contributor]. I've have been testing some project ideas that are using a couple of 'chainer/router' VST plugins. One is METAPlugin [DDMF] and the other is Plogue Biddle. All of this going on inside REAPER.

Having added these new variables, as I test which of these chainer/routers is best up to the task, it is important to know how FS works behind the scenes so to speak.

I'll be on the lookout for the 'redraw limiter'. This is not a PRIM that I recall using, but it may be part of a pre-built sub-module. [It would be handy if FS had a listing of components used in a schematic ... that could be searched for].

Thanks again !
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby TrojakEW » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:51 pm

Do you use ruby ticker in connection with audio processing? Well my previous experience show that ruby ticker not work properly on background, or rather say not working att all.
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby RJHollins » Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:06 pm

TrojakEW wrote:Do you use ruby ticker in connection with audio processing? Well my previous experience show that ruby ticker not work properly on background, or rather say not working att all.

YES.

I did at first ... and I noticed exactly that. Not just audio ... either.

I had put together a 'countdown' timer with display ... the countdown would STOP until brought back into focus, then it would resume. This was using a RUBY timer.

I then tested with a 'green' based timer ... and that continued working.

I didn't know how to 'fix' the RUBY timer ... AND ... working from FS ... there was no way to tell until after exporting.
Not a pleasant surprise :o
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby Ricciardo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:37 pm

I am having the same issues... http://dsprobotics.com/support/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3271

ruby timer doesnt work when plugin is minimized or closed...

how about that green data timer? where can i get it? is there an example?
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby Drnkhobo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:44 pm

how about that green data timer? where can i get it? is there an example?


My way around this way to use the green after load prim and trigger things like that. Im guessing for your case you will need to use some more green modules to send out modulation triggers....look at the other LFO's on this forum for help there man ;)
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby Ricciardo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Drnkhobo wrote:
how about that green data timer? where can i get it? is there an example?


My way around this way to use the green after load prim and trigger things like that. Im guessing for your case you will need to use some more green modules to send out modulation triggers....look at the other LFO's on this forum for help there man ;)


i only need a timer i can setup the ticks per second...or at least work at decent acurracy
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Re: VST Plug-in in background stops working !?!?

Postby Drnkhobo » Thu Jan 29, 2015 2:48 pm

There is a green timer prim....
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