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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:13 pm

since std:: isnt available and math:: doesnt have it, it seems that
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output [@f1, 5].max

is the only way to go.

is that best practice? it is really hard to read for me, i know it as max(0, 5)

plus i think an array creates at least a namespace in memory, if not more troublesome stuff.
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Re: it is about time...

Postby RJHollins » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:18 pm

just following along with your posts 110.

I noticed RUBY ERRORs in this last example. It seems the 'period' after a number is throwing an error.
I removed the 'dot', and the calculations show. [i've not verified the correctness of the calculation].

Anyway, just thought I'd mention, as I look to learn every chance I get.

thanks for your posts !
8-)
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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:33 pm

i know that the one or other is following and wonders how to help. it is probably not so obvious what i exspect. :)
so i just share my experience, better than nothing.
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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:41 pm

which period, that 69. in the rightmost module?

yes, thats also coming from maxmsp-expr where this dot indicates that the number is a float and should also be used like that.

while it is valid to write expr $f1*69 in max and returns a float (because the variable $f1 is of type float), you will run into trouble when you try to do expr $f1/69 - because the division will now be performed in int, so if you send a 17 in this thing it will return 0. float.

unlike in pure data, we know int and float in max and in most situations using a float matters (expr is actually one of the few exceptions), and we may write 69. for 69.0 .

i guess if i take all these things into account for automatic conversion of my expressions, my max-to-ruby max-patch will be more complicated in the end than my most complicated expression is. :D
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Re: it is about time...

Postby KG_is_back » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:27 pm

110 wrote:since std:: isnt available and math:: doesnt have it, it seems that
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output [@f1, 5].max

is the only way to go.

is that best practice? it is really hard to read for me, i know it as max(0, 5)

plus i think an array creates at least a namespace in memory, if not more troublesome stuff.


not really. When you call [a,b,c].max what happens is array is created, max method is called upon it and array gets discarded. If you had function like max(a,b,c) what would ruby do is create array [a,b,c] and pass that array to the max(*p) method. it is effectively the same thing happening. If you really want to use traditional max/min method you can easily create one:
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def max(*p)
p.max
end

def min(*p)
p.min
end

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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:05 am

interesting! :)

so i know two working methods now to choose from.

here is the next issue. for noise with chi distribution i need to trigger this

((Math.sqrt(-2.0*Math.log(1.0-(rand))))*(Math.cos((rand)*6.283185307))**2.0)

for n times and accumulate the result.

no idea how to do that in ruby - and no idea how to make 5 consecutive triggers from 1 outside the ruby object.

both would be a good exercise.
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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:29 am

it seems i could do
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[(@f1<=>1.0), 0.0].max

where i need
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(@f1<1.0)

to output 0 and 1.
but it looks a bit strange and converting that programatically will be more work then to type it by hand.
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Re: it is about time...

Postby RJHollins » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:34 am

110 wrote:which period, that 69. in the rightmost module?
:D

Yes ... for that example, I just added a '0' after the period ---> 69.0

It seems SYNTAX is particular about this.

Same thing [i believe] with examples like: 0.123456 It seems the 0 in front of the decimal point is required.
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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:39 am

right, there were more errors like that, they just didnt show up as errors as inputs were missing and stuff.


so now here...

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output (Math.log(@f1))

def Math.log(*p)
log(*p)
end

output (log(@f1))


nice try, 110, but "stack level too deep". hmpf.
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Re: it is about time...

Postby 110 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 2:40 am

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