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VST Plugins and AAX

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VST Plugins and AAX

Postby Drnkhobo » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:06 pm

Hey guys!

Does anyone here know anything about aax plugins? I think its Avid's new plugin format that
they are developing and I want to know if anyone has more info.

I found this page: http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=325586

Could it be possible to create plugins for this format?
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Re: VST Plugins and AAX

Postby Chregg » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:08 pm

im new to all this , but i doubt it, aax replaced rtas and tdm, and those two standards are beyond wat flowstone can do (maybe im wrong) but if it is posible then flowstone rocks more than i understand just now,,,, to elaborate on that more aax plug-ins work both native and with the tdm system,
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Re: VST Plugins and AAX

Postby trogluddite » Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:56 pm

Chregg is right. At the the moment the VST spec' is the only one supported - it is by far the easiest to support because the specification and development tools for it, although the 'property' of Steinberg, are freely available for all to develop with.
If I understand correctly, AAX would be particularly tricky to implement, because it would have to support the TDM hardware to truly be an AAX plugin. AFAIK, those units use dedicated DSP chips rather than a general purpose processor, so things would need compiling for both the Intel instruction set, and those of the DSP chips - which would be very unlikely to happen, as FS stream processing relies heavily on Intel's SSE instruction set. Supporting a different instruction set would mean a complete re-write of the core "engine" of FS - and assembly modules would have to be re-coded manually by the folks that made them.
Besides which, I would doubt that Avid would really want this to happen. Their reputation is built on utter reliability for working professionals who will willingly pay a premium price for it. They seem to choose particular partners that they work with very closely to ensure that plugins are built to the same quality standards - and somehow, I don't think we're quite the kind of partners that they're looking for!
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Re: VST Plugins and AAX

Postby Chregg » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:07 pm

"If I understand correctly, AAX would be particularly tricky to implement, because it would have to support the TDM hardware to truly be an AAX plugin. " yeah ive worked pro tools systems (hd-hdx) from version 6 right to 10, tdm is very complex in the way it works, way beyond flowstone. Like(addressing the op) the man said avid are very particular with folk messin with their shit, its their standard period, vst is by far the better to concentrate on, for mac users with logic all you need is a vst to au wrapper, you dont get rtas to vst cuz they dont want you to have access to their work unless you pay, but i know you had vst to rtas wrappers but check this out http://www.gearslutz.com/board/product- ... apper.html
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Re: VST Plugins and AAX

Postby Chregg » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:28 pm

to elaborate more even their control surface communication protocols are their own stuff, it aint midi, which is wat most/all other companies use
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Re: VST Plugins and AAX

Postby Drnkhobo » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:49 pm

Im getting the theme here . . . lol :lol:


OK, I think ill let this thread die right . . . about . . . now
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