WinXP - Win 8 --- something I need to know ?!?

[RJHollins]

your tester tried drnkhobos test vst? does this one only fail on win 8? has he some other hosts too to test it? afaik reaper handles vst`s very well, but who knows? you have other testers on win 8 systems too?

Hi NuBeat .. the VST test with Drnkhobos app failed on both computers of his One is a Win7, the other is Win8-64. I don't recall if the 7 system is 64bit.

Reaper is his host all the VST testing has been done on, including my project VST.

I've no one else testing at the moment, mostly because it is tough to find good testers. When I was testing one of my earlier projects, most of the tester were just curiousity seekers

We have had 'some' limited success. My VST program was able to create the folder and save the config file in the APPS tag of the SYSFolder prim. I'm using the mentioned Marshal routine in Raw Binary mode, because we had issue earlier with standard mode [BUT ... we were working out of the MyDocs folder] .... actually, I may need to go back to the normal mode and now store in the APPs folder [maybe that would work different].

The config file he sent back to me was corrupted. I made him a config file from my working system ... he's to put that file in and see if it loads properly.

I've tried so many different things and combinations. Sadly, fom the reports here ... his 2 systems are the only ones failing Dnkn tests and my plugin. Adding to that ... the Preset manager fails to read back saved data. He is NOT getting a single error message at all, says he runs in Admin mode ... all his testing for other devs not had an issue like this.

Specs on the Win 8.1 PRO system are INTEL Core2Quad Q8400, 8gig ram, 64bit on x64 processor. Waiting on the specs of the Win7 machine.

I presume Reaper 64. He just emailed that he tried a portable version of Reaper ... still no work.

I'm stuck and don't know what I can do or suggest.

[Nubeat7]

maybe he should try on different hosts (with demo versions if he has no full versions) to see if its the system or the host...

renoise is really easy to install...http://www.renoise.com/demo

or maybe also on savihost.. http://www.hermannseib.com/savihost.htm

edit: english version: http://www.hermannseib.com/english/vsthost.htm

[Walter Sommerfeld]

Demanded via PM by RJHollins here my solution capture:

btw: i use Trogs Custom Seetings File manager (with little FS Trigger changed bugs) with it...
Win8(6) i7 Quad

Walter

[RJHollins]

Good Morning Mr. Sommerfeld,

Thank-you for posting ! I apologize if my PM had any 'demanding' overtone to it ... certainly not my intent

Something very interesting with the schematic you've posted, particularly the TRIGGER INPUT on the SYSFOLDER prim. Maybe someone would explain why this is added

My schematic section in this area looks nearly identical ... heck, I probably saw you posting at the SM forum and modelled accordingly

Again, Thank-you ... I dealing with a most frustrating issue with my beta-testers 2 systems. If it was only one of his computers, I'd say IT had a problem ... but for both to not work ... I've got a code problem I'm looking for ... or is this some kind of BUG

Thanks again.

[RJHollins]

Question to the Group ...

Is there any possibility that when I compile an EXE or VST on my system, that it would compile any differently if I had a different OS ?? [did that make sense].

In other words, what impact is there if I develop on an XP system, and export to run on a Win7 or 8 machine ?

I would think that the export format would be generic. but I could be mistaken ?

When I export, I usually have SSE to be included. I don't usually select WaveTable as I'm not sure they apply to my design app.

I'm just perplex ...

[trogluddite]

Not really sure what differences there might be.
FS exports don't really compile in the traditional sense - the export is basically just the schematic bundled with a 'runtime' version of the FS engine and the Ruby interpreter (that's why FS dll's are relatively large).
In terms of this particular problem with files, my guess is that it has more to do with the interface between the application and Windoze. For example, we've seen that EXE's behave differently than VST's sometimes - but an EXE runs as its own process, whereas a plugin runs within the process of the host - you can see this if you look in the task manager; there's no separate listing for the plugins within a DAW. So the 'terms and conditions' for file access, at least in part, may depend on how the host is programmed - certain environment variables will likely be 'inherited' from the 'parent' process.
Still, it seems that other plugins are able to do these things - so there must be hope for a solution.

PS) I've mentioned this issue to Malc now - but he's said that he has some other pressing commitments ATM, so it might be a little while before he can comment.

[RJHollins]

Wooo great idea/suggestion ...

Reaper allows plugin to be run in 'separate, dedicated' process ... sent suggestion to beta-tester.

[Drnkhobo]

Hmm, we're still nowhere on this. It confuses me because like I said, some guys can save/load in ableton, while other cant. Same OS. Same architecture as well. Then some say Reaper works, but it doesnt for me??? Wtf?

I hope Malc sorts his stuff out soon, we need him on this.

F**k it, i'd sell my soul to go to sleep at night knowing all my customers will have no issues with any saving/loading.

[RJHollins]

Last nite I did some further testing of my project in a couple different DAW's besides my reference Reaper.

1. WaveLab 6 - the VST loads. My original config file loaded. The registration file did not. The LOAD button to parse a new file turned the config page all white [blank] ... locked up WaveLab

2. Sonar 8.5 - VST loads. None of the pull down menus will work. It is if they are frozen

3. Adobe Audition 3.0.1 - VST loads. All functions seem to be working

I'm looking for my old disk for Samplitude, and I think I'll grab a demo of StudioOne[?]. The Main host I test has been Reaper-32 ... every function has worked. I don;t think that I did anything special to make it work on Reaper ... but why the issues with these other DAWs

I don't even know where to start to fix any of this on these other DAW

To rule out ... I was thinking of making a generic VST that contained all the GUI stuff I use. Just to test things like the PullDown menus. All the KNOBS worked in all the Daws tested, so that part is OK.

NEWS from my beta-tester.

In REAPER, a plugin can be run as a Dedicated Process, Separate, etc. NONE of these modes made any difference with testing my VST ... none of them fixed the issue.

The SAVE/LOAD test module DRNKHBO wrote failed on BOTH of his computers. This is THE issue I have him focused on. No one else has reported a fail [hope more test this] ... but for this to not work makes me suspicious that both computers have issue but man, 2 different operating system ... what are the chances

I could better understand if my project was doing any fancy data manipulation or intense calculations that could cause a crash or BSOD ... but it's not that kind of program .... it's a MIDI data sender [a glorified calculator].

Pull down menus that work on one DAW but not in another ... how can this be fixed ?!?!?

I'm confused and frustrated ... using stock components for the most part.

much to ponder

[Drnkhobo]

Hey Mr Hollins nice report back!

Pull down menus that work on one DAW but not in another ... how can this be fixed ?!?!?

I have the same problems with ONE of my pull down menu's in a vst. With Reaper as well. Audition on my side loves FS plugins as does FL. I dont know why there would be an error like this. . . ?

Well. . . . I think I know the culprit here. . . as I said ONE of my pull down menu's was not working on Reaper. My other one does (same plugin) . . . ? It turns out the one that DOES work was an old FS module that was released long ago (3.0 i Think) where it was not yet ported (interaction side) to. . . . . . RUBY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ill do more tests here but im thinking im on to something!